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		<title>By: Free ISP</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/online/reasons-and-steps-to-avoid-your-isp-dialer-software#comment-173417</link>
		<dc:creator>Free ISP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still use dial up from hotels and when I'm away from home :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still use dial up from hotels and when I&#8217;m away from home <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My cousin has netscape and her computer stopped being able to log onto certain sites on the internet.

I uninstalled Netscape (HUGE MISTAKE) and now the computer will dial in...but won't allow you to go on the internet using either Mozilla or IE...

Suggestions??  Before I burn it in epogee??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My cousin has netscape and her computer stopped being able to log onto certain sites on the internet.</p>
<p>I uninstalled Netscape (HUGE MISTAKE) and now the computer will dial in&#8230;but won&#8217;t allow you to go on the internet using either Mozilla or IE&#8230;</p>
<p>Suggestions??  Before I burn it in epogee??</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey BES,  It's Steve-O again.  I wanted to come back and reply before, but really haven't had any time at all!   I will say, the elimination of the bartshell stuff really was helpful.  It also made the connection a lot stronger as it didn't have near as much of a problem sharing.  The linux box also ran quite well on it while I had it.   I've since then switched over to Hughesnet.  I will say, Satellite internet sucks pretty bad compared to most DSL or Cable type connections but it's better than the dial-up I was using.   This area has some really bad phone lines.   During any type of rain I couldn't hold a connection at all, and if it was windy at all, you might as well forget it. 

Now, even in most predominant storms I have a solid connection.  Only one in a while will a storm destroy my connection.   And the slowest it's ever been has been more than 5x my old 26.4kbps connection.  Even in the most highest times of usage it doesn't give me much of a hassle.  And connection sharing is nice, specially with my wireless router and my laptop.  It's like having a cable connection only no gaming and not near the speed.  But I can watch youtube video's without pausing for a half hour!  :D  And MP3's download in less than a minute usually.   I'm happy with it, and it really helped me with my online schooling as I don't have to skip the video sessions!

Thanks again bud!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BES,  It&#8217;s Steve-O again.  I wanted to come back and reply before, but really haven&#8217;t had any time at all!   I will say, the elimination of the bartshell stuff really was helpful.  It also made the connection a lot stronger as it didn&#8217;t have near as much of a problem sharing.  The linux box also ran quite well on it while I had it.   I&#8217;ve since then switched over to Hughesnet.  I will say, Satellite internet sucks pretty bad compared to most DSL or Cable type connections but it&#8217;s better than the dial-up I was using.   This area has some really bad phone lines.   During any type of rain I couldn&#8217;t hold a connection at all, and if it was windy at all, you might as well forget it. </p>
<p>Now, even in most predominant storms I have a solid connection.  Only one in a while will a storm destroy my connection.   And the slowest it&#8217;s ever been has been more than 5x my old 26.4kbps connection.  Even in the most highest times of usage it doesn&#8217;t give me much of a hassle.  And connection sharing is nice, specially with my wireless router and my laptop.  It&#8217;s like having a cable connection only no gaming and not near the speed.  But I can watch youtube video&#8217;s without pausing for a half hour!  <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  And MP3&#8217;s download in less than a minute usually.   I&#8217;m happy with it, and it really helped me with my online schooling as I don&#8217;t have to skip the video sessions!</p>
<p>Thanks again bud!</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 03:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tayo. :) Thank you for your comment. Hmmm, your comment seems to be asking something which I do not understand fully: I apologize for that.

What kind of computer skills and career are you looking for? Also, I could not find anyone named "moitchelle" in the above comments. Did you mean Michelle instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tayo. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thank you for your comment. Hmmm, your comment seems to be asking something which I do not understand fully: I apologize for that.</p>
<p>What kind of computer skills and career are you looking for? Also, I could not find anyone named &#8220;moitchelle&#8221; in the above comments. Did you mean Michelle instead?</p>
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		<title>By: tayo</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/online/reasons-and-steps-to-avoid-your-isp-dialer-software#comment-132194</link>
		<dc:creator>tayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear moitchelle 
good work youredoing. pls i need to know how i can teach myself some basic computer skills learn at home kinda thing. what softwares are available on net and how can i get a company that hires and train from scratch at the same time- build a career you know</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear moitchelle<br />
good work youredoing. pls i need to know how i can teach myself some basic computer skills learn at home kinda thing. what softwares are available on net and how can i get a company that hires and train from scratch at the same time- build a career you know</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[Sorry for the delay in comments everyone]

&lt;strong&gt;Steve-O&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment. I also agree with the idea of doing something I want to do, and not refraining from something simply because the majority of the population refrains from the same thing. If I want to stay connected 24x7, I am paying for it and I do not care if the other people stay connected 23x7, when it comes to thinking as to whether or not my action is justified.

The dialer itself adds a lot of bytes to kilobytes of data every minute or so, which can be a huge amount of data for many people on dial-up. How is your linux box working so far? How is your connection overall: better than before?

&lt;strong&gt;Stu&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for clarifying. How is your Emule running on dial-up? :p

&lt;strong&gt;Victor&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for coming and asking the question. If you remove the PeoplePc dialer software as mentioned above and try to connect to different servers, you might be able to connect to a server which will not disconnect you so soon. The windows dialer software can also be configured to dial in immediately in case of a disconnection, hopefully enabling a much faster reconnection than is possible with the PeoplePC software. That way, some programs that use the internet connection may simply assume that the incoming data is taking a while to come. Other programs will be able to resume faster too.

Are you still having the issue?

&lt;strong&gt;Steve Gentry&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment. How is the connection going for you so far?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[Sorry for the delay in comments everyone]</p>
<p><strong>Steve-O</strong>, thanks for the comment. I also agree with the idea of doing something I want to do, and not refraining from something simply because the majority of the population refrains from the same thing. If I want to stay connected 24&#215;7, I am paying for it and I do not care if the other people stay connected 23&#215;7, when it comes to thinking as to whether or not my action is justified.</p>
<p>The dialer itself adds a lot of bytes to kilobytes of data every minute or so, which can be a huge amount of data for many people on dial-up. How is your linux box working so far? How is your connection overall: better than before?</p>
<p><strong>Stu</strong>, thanks for clarifying. How is your Emule running on dial-up? :p</p>
<p><strong>Victor</strong>, thanks for coming and asking the question. If you remove the PeoplePc dialer software as mentioned above and try to connect to different servers, you might be able to connect to a server which will not disconnect you so soon. The windows dialer software can also be configured to dial in immediately in case of a disconnection, hopefully enabling a much faster reconnection than is possible with the PeoplePC software. That way, some programs that use the internet connection may simply assume that the incoming data is taking a while to come. Other programs will be able to resume faster too.</p>
<p>Are you still having the issue?</p>
<p><strong>Steve Gentry</strong>, thanks for the comment. How is the connection going for you so far?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Gentry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Gentry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for helping me get rid of that buggy BartShell that PeoplePC uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for helping me get rid of that buggy BartShell that PeoplePC uses.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, i have  a problem. My internet keeps taking me out after the 4 hours use. I have peoplepc and is there anyway to do something about that so that i can stay on for longer that 4 hours</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, i have  a problem. My internet keeps taking me out after the 4 hours use. I have peoplepc and is there anyway to do something about that so that i can stay on for longer that 4 hours</p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bes:  
I use Emule.  Always have loved the simplicity of it and I can find anything I am looking for.  Literally tons if users.  I highly recommend it.  Glad I could help some others with their dial up too. 
:o)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bes:<br />
I use Emule.  Always have loved the simplicity of it and I can find anything I am looking for.  Literally tons if users.  I highly recommend it.  Glad I could help some others with their dial up too.<br />
:o)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve-O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve-O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this.   Taking that people-pc-trash out of the picture let me share my internet connection with my linux box..  I thought I'd never get it to work correctly..  I want you to know, you have my gratitude.  I'll be sharing this website with everyone I know who has PeopleP-screwyou-C.  

And as for the idea on thier disconnecting spree after 4 hours..   They say it's because of thier users not using the internet more than an hour..     Like 95% percent doesn't...  Bullcrap, I pay for the service, I want it to stay on as long as I need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this.   Taking that people-pc-trash out of the picture let me share my internet connection with my linux box..  I thought I&#8217;d never get it to work correctly..  I want you to know, you have my gratitude.  I&#8217;ll be sharing this website with everyone I know who has PeopleP-screwyou-C.  </p>
<p>And as for the idea on thier disconnecting spree after 4 hours..   They say it&#8217;s because of thier users not using the internet more than an hour..     Like 95% percent doesn&#8217;t&#8230;  Bullcrap, I pay for the service, I want it to stay on as long as I need it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks &lt;strong&gt;Stu&lt;/strong&gt;, I really appreciate it.

To everyone else, Stu is referring to &lt;a href="http://www.aldensoft.com/cidial/description.html" title="CiDial by Aldensoft"&gt;CiDial&lt;/a&gt; by Aldensoft, a free program for Windows to automatically redial any number in order to stay connected.

What kind of peer to peer software do you use, if I may ask? Your solution sounds good, as if disconnection cannot be avoid, one can have a software automatically reconnect, immediately, causing probably only about 10-30 seconds of no connection in between sessions.

Thanks! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks <strong>Stu</strong>, I really appreciate it.</p>
<p>To everyone else, Stu is referring to <a href="http://www.aldensoft.com/cidial/description.html" title="CiDial by Aldensoft">CiDial</a> by Aldensoft, a free program for Windows to automatically redial any number in order to stay connected.</p>
<p>What kind of peer to peer software do you use, if I may ask? Your solution sounds good, as if disconnection cannot be avoid, one can have a software automatically reconnect, immediately, causing probably only about 10-30 seconds of no connection in between sessions.</p>
<p>Thanks! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A heads up for those of you who cannot connect through the method listed above and for those who cannot get the other suggestion about automatically reconnecting (by using network connections, also listed above).  

you may need to use this format in order to get connected the way previously described.  Enter in your username box the following format:  
isp#6username@peoplepc.com  (where username is your username of course).  Now, go and get a program that redials automatically on disconnect like CiDial and you'll be all set.  I use peer to peer software and can now stay online for days even though peoplepc disconnects me every 3hrs 50 min.  CiDial automatically reconnects me and the downloads keep going.  Automatically reconnecting using the networks connection method above didn't work for me so I use this method.  Flawless.    Hope this helps someone and screw peoplepc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A heads up for those of you who cannot connect through the method listed above and for those who cannot get the other suggestion about automatically reconnecting (by using network connections, also listed above).  </p>
<p>you may need to use this format in order to get connected the way previously described.  Enter in your username box the following format:<br />
isp#6username@peoplepc.com  (where username is your username of course).  Now, go and get a program that redials automatically on disconnect like CiDial and you&#8217;ll be all set.  I use peer to peer software and can now stay online for days even though peoplepc disconnects me every 3hrs 50 min.  CiDial automatically reconnects me and the downloads keep going.  Automatically reconnecting using the networks connection method above didn&#8217;t work for me so I use this method.  Flawless.    Hope this helps someone and screw peoplepc!</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Shark&lt;/strong&gt;, thank you for the response. Sorry for the late response, by the way; I am catching up to a lot of things now.

Yes, when you sign up, they do not mention anything about automatic disconnect times. You are paying for "&lt;em&gt;unlimited internet&lt;/em&gt;", as they claim. You should get unlimited internet in return.

I do not know much about Windstream, but if you have an unlimited calling plan, won't phone companies not do anything, in theory? I wonder if there are any stories online of people calling others too much, through landlines, and getting warnings or something from the company telling the customer/caller to keep the call volume or length of calls down, even if someone has an unlimited calling plan.

What you are asking is taking an action o deliberately send a message in mass numbers by actually using what you are paying for, and I love it. The bigger many companies get the more they ignore customers. Call PeoplePC support line and see if you can find anyone answering the phone in a happy voice; instead of a happy or a normal or serious tone, they have an angry-serious tone, as if you bothered them. It is as if they are doing you a favor. But of course, many other companies are like that too.

I wonder if phone companies will do anything, as you suggest and hope, regarding PeoplePC or other similar companies, since doing so may result in some legal action by PeoplePC against such phone companies [for the phone companies supporting angry ISP users]?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Shark</strong>, thank you for the response. Sorry for the late response, by the way; I am catching up to a lot of things now.</p>
<p>Yes, when you sign up, they do not mention anything about automatic disconnect times. You are paying for &#8220;<em>unlimited internet</em>&#8220;, as they claim. You should get unlimited internet in return.</p>
<p>I do not know much about Windstream, but if you have an unlimited calling plan, won&#8217;t phone companies not do anything, in theory? I wonder if there are any stories online of people calling others too much, through landlines, and getting warnings or something from the company telling the customer/caller to keep the call volume or length of calls down, even if someone has an unlimited calling plan.</p>
<p>What you are asking is taking an action o deliberately send a message in mass numbers by actually using what you are paying for, and I love it. The bigger many companies get the more they ignore customers. Call PeoplePC support line and see if you can find anyone answering the phone in a happy voice; instead of a happy or a normal or serious tone, they have an angry-serious tone, as if you bothered them. It is as if they are doing you a favor. But of course, many other companies are like that too.</p>
<p>I wonder if phone companies will do anything, as you suggest and hope, regarding PeoplePC or other similar companies, since doing so may result in some legal action by PeoplePC against such phone companies [for the phone companies supporting angry ISP users]?</p>
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