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	<title>Comments on: Thought: is Bes Gay because of moving to San Francisco?</title>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/life/thought-is-bes-gay-because-of-moving-to-san-francisco/comment-page-1#comment-38580</link>
		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Simonne&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment, and thank you also for sharing that story. Hate simply because of someone being different is indeed a sad thing to witness.

Yes, I like the way you described it; assuming someone to be something because of moving to a certain city "&lt;em&gt;is really hilarious and it surely proves a deep thinking&lt;/em&gt;", heh. :) Thanks Simonne, that example helps the point further.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Simonne</strong>, thanks for the comment, and thank you also for sharing that story. Hate simply because of someone being different is indeed a sad thing to witness.</p>
<p>Yes, I like the way you described it; assuming someone to be something because of moving to a certain city &#8220;<em>is really hilarious and it surely proves a deep thinking</em>&#8220;, heh. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks Simonne, that example helps the point further.</p>
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		<title>By: Simonne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simonne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday, there was a gay parade in Bucharest. They were claiming for some rights. Unfortunately, there were so many people welcoming them with rocks, and even the orthodox church representatives blamed that parade, and made such a noise in media... I'm always sorry to see how people cultivate hate and how they blame others in groups, just because they are different. 

Anyway, regardless what one thinks about being gay, to think that somebody is gay only because he moves to San Francisco, is really hilarious and it surely proves a deep thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, there was a gay parade in Bucharest. They were claiming for some rights. Unfortunately, there were so many people welcoming them with rocks, and even the orthodox church representatives blamed that parade, and made such a noise in media&#8230; I&#8217;m always sorry to see how people cultivate hate and how they blame others in groups, just because they are different. </p>
<p>Anyway, regardless what one thinks about being gay, to think that somebody is gay only because he moves to San Francisco, is really hilarious and it surely proves a deep thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Andrew&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment, and a very good point, using a very good example. Some people might say that an example of an ice cream cannot be directly relevant or a substitute to the topic of being gay or not, but the principle can almost be the same.

Good point about what people should be concerned about, instead of some sexual preference that they are not directly involved in. Sure, a wife can worry if the husband turns out to be bisexual or gay, but a classmate or even an office worker shouldn't worry if some worker down the aisles is gay or straight.

Sorry that your comment was awaiting moderation, by the way. I had some new comment moderation settings enabled today and some comments were being held for moderation. Things should be all right now.

By the way, I like pistachio ice cream, I think, and mint chocolate chip too. :)

&lt;strong&gt;Vivien-inspirationbit&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for taking the time from your busy trip to comment. :) I really like that quote. Yes, many parts of the world raise children to teach them that a marriage involves a man and a woman; other than Europe [guessing], I am guessing most of the world still teaches kids on a large scale that traditional principle.

Excellent points. Personally, I have never yet met a gay person pushing his/her "&lt;em&gt;gayness&lt;/em&gt;", trying to convert straight people to being gay so far, so maybe it is different in Canada. Maybe it is because the pressure is on gay people at the moment, I'm not sure. Also, regarding what you said about people sharing private details, I know some people who love asking others personal questions regularly, and when some topic comes out like the topic of being gay or anti-gay, they simply start acting strange, or they say that they do not want to discuss private things as it is none of their business. Usually, I go like "&lt;em&gt;Hello! You asked that question or you were the one wanting to know more, no?&lt;/em&gt;" 

Regardless of whether one intrudes into other people's lives by asking too many personal questions and then feeling that they do not want to share private details, I just laugh at people who simply start acting strange because they were not taught, nor did they learn, ways to act around people they are uncomfortable against. For example, one of the guys who was asking me the "&lt;em&gt;Are you gay?&lt;/em&gt;" question and started acting distant very extremely, even though I told him his question was strange, now wants to hang out with me a lot because of an offline business deal I have going on, and now, all of a sudden, even though he does not know if I am gay or not, he is all happy and cheerful around me.

For me, personally, the issue of asking people too much information or even forcing that information onto other people has nothing to with the topic of gay; if a gay person keeps telling me that he or she is gay, I am not going to hate the gay people, nor am I going to hate that person for being gay. I might probably find that person annoying because of pushing too much information, I agree, though for me they are two separate topics. One is the topic of being gay, while the other is a different topic of communication where one forces others to talk by asking questions or one shares information without the other wanting to listen. So, many times, some people I know, they just start backing off and becoming secluded simply because they feel uneasy around a controversial topic. Basically, these people love sharing private information about topics they like, and when it comes to topics like abortion or gay people, they start thinking that the other person is sharing too much information, because of their own views on those topics. Many people I know, both online and offline, do that. How do I know that? Because I know most of their other friends who tell me on their own on a regular basis how those "&lt;em&gt;uneasy&lt;/em&gt;" people act around others who do not think or share such "&lt;em&gt;controversial&lt;/em&gt;" topics.

For me, I personally don't care what people are or what they think of me, as long as I am not affected because of that latter thinking. What I do, really, care about is how people start acting strange or finding reasons to justify their strange behavior simply because their own fear or phobia about something makes them paranoid enough to assume things without actually knowing or finding out. Wow, this comment could have been a post of its own, so long!

Again, that quote is splendid; more and more people should hear about it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Andrew</strong>, thanks for the comment, and a very good point, using a very good example. Some people might say that an example of an ice cream cannot be directly relevant or a substitute to the topic of being gay or not, but the principle can almost be the same.</p>
<p>Good point about what people should be concerned about, instead of some sexual preference that they are not directly involved in. Sure, a wife can worry if the husband turns out to be bisexual or gay, but a classmate or even an office worker shouldn&#8217;t worry if some worker down the aisles is gay or straight.</p>
<p>Sorry that your comment was awaiting moderation, by the way. I had some new comment moderation settings enabled today and some comments were being held for moderation. Things should be all right now.</p>
<p>By the way, I like pistachio ice cream, I think, and mint chocolate chip too. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><strong>Vivien-inspirationbit</strong>, thanks for taking the time from your busy trip to comment. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> I really like that quote. Yes, many parts of the world raise children to teach them that a marriage involves a man and a woman; other than Europe [guessing], I am guessing most of the world still teaches kids on a large scale that traditional principle.</p>
<p>Excellent points. Personally, I have never yet met a gay person pushing his/her &#8220;<em>gayness</em>&#8220;, trying to convert straight people to being gay so far, so maybe it is different in Canada. Maybe it is because the pressure is on gay people at the moment, I&#8217;m not sure. Also, regarding what you said about people sharing private details, I know some people who love asking others personal questions regularly, and when some topic comes out like the topic of being gay or anti-gay, they simply start acting strange, or they say that they do not want to discuss private things as it is none of their business. Usually, I go like &#8220;<em>Hello! You asked that question or you were the one wanting to know more, no?</em>&#8221; </p>
<p>Regardless of whether one intrudes into other people&#8217;s lives by asking too many personal questions and then feeling that they do not want to share private details, I just laugh at people who simply start acting strange because they were not taught, nor did they learn, ways to act around people they are uncomfortable against. For example, one of the guys who was asking me the &#8220;<em>Are you gay?</em>&#8221; question and started acting distant very extremely, even though I told him his question was strange, now wants to hang out with me a lot because of an offline business deal I have going on, and now, all of a sudden, even though he does not know if I am gay or not, he is all happy and cheerful around me.</p>
<p>For me, personally, the issue of asking people too much information or even forcing that information onto other people has nothing to with the topic of gay; if a gay person keeps telling me that he or she is gay, I am not going to hate the gay people, nor am I going to hate that person for being gay. I might probably find that person annoying because of pushing too much information, I agree, though for me they are two separate topics. One is the topic of being gay, while the other is a different topic of communication where one forces others to talk by asking questions or one shares information without the other wanting to listen. So, many times, some people I know, they just start backing off and becoming secluded simply because they feel uneasy around a controversial topic. Basically, these people love sharing private information about topics they like, and when it comes to topics like abortion or gay people, they start thinking that the other person is sharing too much information, because of their own views on those topics. Many people I know, both online and offline, do that. How do I know that? Because I know most of their other friends who tell me on their own on a regular basis how those &#8220;<em>uneasy</em>&#8221; people act around others who do not think or share such &#8220;<em>controversial</em>&#8221; topics.</p>
<p>For me, I personally don&#8217;t care what people are or what they think of me, as long as I am not affected because of that latter thinking. What I do, really, care about is how people start acting strange or finding reasons to justify their strange behavior simply because their own fear or phobia about something makes them paranoid enough to assume things without actually knowing or finding out. Wow, this comment could have been a post of its own, so long!</p>
<p>Again, that quote is splendid; more and more people should hear about it. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: inspirationbit</title>
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		<dc:creator>inspirationbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't hate gay people, nor do I dislike them... 
But I do find that concept strange, it is beyond my understanding... perhaps it's because of my upbringing... I don't know... I only learned about different kinds of sexual relationship when I was 20 years old... no kidding here.

However, the fact that someone I know is gay, or I find later that the person is gay, doesn't affect my judgment of that person. In fact, many say that women feel safer around gay men, because they can be simply friends.  :-) I'm not saying here that we feel threatened when we're around straight men. 

Anyhow, what I wanted to say is that I don't care about people's religious beliefs, sexual orientation, political preference, etc. However, I also don't like when people are pushing their convictions on me. I also don't care and don't want to know about the very private life of other people. I'm not giving away the private details of my life, so why should others do?

I'm 100% with the former Canadian Prime minister Pierre Trudeau here, when he said: "The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nationâ€. I have no business there too. And nobody should make it to be my business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hate gay people, nor do I dislike them&#8230;<br />
But I do find that concept strange, it is beyond my understanding&#8230; perhaps it&#8217;s because of my upbringing&#8230; I don&#8217;t know&#8230; I only learned about different kinds of sexual relationship when I was 20 years old&#8230; no kidding here.</p>
<p>However, the fact that someone I know is gay, or I find later that the person is gay, doesn&#8217;t affect my judgment of that person. In fact, many say that women feel safer around gay men, because they can be simply friends.  <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> I&#8217;m not saying here that we feel threatened when we&#8217;re around straight men. </p>
<p>Anyhow, what I wanted to say is that I don&#8217;t care about people&#8217;s religious beliefs, sexual orientation, political preference, etc. However, I also don&#8217;t like when people are pushing their convictions on me. I also don&#8217;t care and don&#8217;t want to know about the very private life of other people. I&#8217;m not giving away the private details of my life, so why should others do?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 100% with the former Canadian Prime minister Pierre Trudeau here, when he said: &#8220;The state has no business in the bedrooms of the nationâ€. I have no business there too. And nobody should make it to be my business.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no idea whether you like pistachio ice cream, indeed I don't even know if you have ever tried it, perhaps just the once in college just to experiment. Nor would I ask. Unless I'm selling ice cream it is of no consequence to me.

Matters of taste are just that and I see no difference between what kind of ice cream you like and whether you like men or women, or both, or neither. 

If people want to be afraid or concerned about sexual practices then they should be concerned with those that want to rape, abduct, or hurt others. Otherwise they should let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no idea whether you like pistachio ice cream, indeed I don&#8217;t even know if you have ever tried it, perhaps just the once in college just to experiment. Nor would I ask. Unless I&#8217;m selling ice cream it is of no consequence to me.</p>
<p>Matters of taste are just that and I see no difference between what kind of ice cream you like and whether you like men or women, or both, or neither. </p>
<p>If people want to be afraid or concerned about sexual practices then they should be concerned with those that want to rape, abduct, or hurt others. Otherwise they should let it go.</p>
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