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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it&#039;s all psychological effects of drugs, fame, pressure, stress. That&#039;s why they tend to ends their life, even they almost have everything they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#8217;s all psychological effects of drugs, fame, pressure, stress. That&#8217;s why they tend to ends their life, even they almost have everything they want.</p>
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		<title>By: Adorno-esque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adorno-esque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baggage*</description>
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		<title>By: Adorno-esque</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adorno-esque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 05:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the end product of deeply neurotic culture, so desperate for connection with something authentic &amp; larger-than-themsleves that they will project their disowned bagge and project it on unusally pretty faces &amp; other man made idols

The entertainment machine swallows ignorant gawkers with divisive, backward societal programming that, over time, will totally close their minds

seeing it for what it is
is a good sign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the end product of deeply neurotic culture, so desperate for connection with something authentic &amp; larger-than-themsleves that they will project their disowned bagge and project it on unusally pretty faces &amp; other man made idols</p>
<p>The entertainment machine swallows ignorant gawkers with divisive, backward societal programming that, over time, will totally close their minds</p>
<p>seeing it for what it is<br />
is a good sign</p>
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		<title>By: Patty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>because celebrities are better than us?
HELLLLLO
We worship celebrities, they are our GODS
people still go to church (even if they dont go to church) get me?
We make cults around these pretty people raised upon high

I mean when Americans march for a suspected child molester (guilty or no) because he made some good music in his lifetime, when stars regularly meltdown from the pressure of deity-hood we&#039;re there with cameras, recording ever second of their blessed existence.

 what does that tell you about the priorities of a terminally moronic society?

we have about as much depth cllectively as a cardboard box

normies dont count like celebs, we&#039;re a lower class of peoples
....id say 1oo normies to every average celeb</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>because celebrities are better than us?<br />
HELLLLLO<br />
We worship celebrities, they are our GODS<br />
people still go to church (even if they dont go to church) get me?<br />
We make cults around these pretty people raised upon high</p>
<p>I mean when Americans march for a suspected child molester (guilty or no) because he made some good music in his lifetime, when stars regularly meltdown from the pressure of deity-hood we&#8217;re there with cameras, recording ever second of their blessed existence.</p>
<p> what does that tell you about the priorities of a terminally moronic society?</p>
<p>we have about as much depth cllectively as a cardboard box</p>
<p>normies dont count like celebs, we&#8217;re a lower class of peoples<br />
&#8230;.id say 1oo normies to every average celeb</p>
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		<title>By: Lutz from Zurich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lutz from Zurich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s mental.

Kurt Cobain was on top of the world with Nirvana when he took his life. 

Terrell Owens is another one who I think tried for sympathy and publicity. 

I think each one is different. Drugs play a huge part. Mental condition. They are just humans. Sometimes, all the pressure mounts up too....

Lutz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s mental.</p>
<p>Kurt Cobain was on top of the world with Nirvana when he took his life. </p>
<p>Terrell Owens is another one who I think tried for sympathy and publicity. </p>
<p>I think each one is different. Drugs play a huge part. Mental condition. They are just humans. Sometimes, all the pressure mounts up too&#8230;.</p>
<p>Lutz</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I treat celebrity suicide on the same level as ordinary people suicide. Just because the person is famous doesn&#039;t make their life any more important than the average joe&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I treat celebrity suicide on the same level as ordinary people suicide. Just because the person is famous doesn&#8217;t make their life any more important than the average joe&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;PumpkinHead&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment.

That is a very good point, that we can actually distance ourselves from Celebrities and keep on living our lives compared to people around us around whom we may feel more vulnerable because those people seem to be just like us, among other reasons.

The examples of Johnny Cash and Megan Fox are good too. For me, the suicide concept may even triggered Johnny Cash to be better at describing himself. Megan Fox may indeed have problems, and recently, her new film completely flopped. It did bring her to the spotlight more. Do you think the two may be related?

Thanks for sharing about your friend who attempted suicide. It is indeed very interesting how people distance themselves from someone who attempted suicide. Many people become more sensitive also, thinking that anything bad or sad uttered by a person who committed suicide in the past means that the person is having suicidal thoughts again.

Do you think it can be easier if we accept the idea of suicide as not being absurd and as being something completely unacceptable to many but a big step that, in many situations, can be avoided?

Thanks again PumpkinHead!

&lt;strong&gt;Melanie&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment. For me, regardless of what a person accomplishes in life, a suicidal thought can be related, among other things, to the idea of wanting to continue living or to experience something different, or the idea of simply wanting to stop experiencing. In your view, are celebrities entitled to suicidal attempts more than others?

&lt;strong&gt;Mandy&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for the comment also. I agree, the news media covering celebrity suicide attempts and small mentions like &quot;We wish him/her the best&quot;, coming from new anchors, makes many people feel more sympathetic because for those people, something said on the news is almost the same as something being normal and the accepted standard that they should accept also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>PumpkinHead</strong>, thanks for the comment.</p>
<p>That is a very good point, that we can actually distance ourselves from Celebrities and keep on living our lives compared to people around us around whom we may feel more vulnerable because those people seem to be just like us, among other reasons.</p>
<p>The examples of Johnny Cash and Megan Fox are good too. For me, the suicide concept may even triggered Johnny Cash to be better at describing himself. Megan Fox may indeed have problems, and recently, her new film completely flopped. It did bring her to the spotlight more. Do you think the two may be related?</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing about your friend who attempted suicide. It is indeed very interesting how people distance themselves from someone who attempted suicide. Many people become more sensitive also, thinking that anything bad or sad uttered by a person who committed suicide in the past means that the person is having suicidal thoughts again.</p>
<p>Do you think it can be easier if we accept the idea of suicide as not being absurd and as being something completely unacceptable to many but a big step that, in many situations, can be avoided?</p>
<p>Thanks again PumpkinHead!</p>
<p><strong>Melanie</strong>, thanks for the comment. For me, regardless of what a person accomplishes in life, a suicidal thought can be related, among other things, to the idea of wanting to continue living or to experience something different, or the idea of simply wanting to stop experiencing. In your view, are celebrities entitled to suicidal attempts more than others?</p>
<p><strong>Mandy</strong>, thanks for the comment also. I agree, the news media covering celebrity suicide attempts and small mentions like &#8220;We wish him/her the best&#8221;, coming from new anchors, makes many people feel more sympathetic because for those people, something said on the news is almost the same as something being normal and the accepted standard that they should accept also.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my point of view celebrities have popularity and media attention due  to that their suicide attempts becoming news but infamous people suicide attemts is not getting attention to the media and other thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my point of view celebrities have popularity and media attention due  to that their suicide attempts becoming news but infamous people suicide attemts is not getting attention to the media and other thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 20:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure we prefer celebrities when thinking of importance but at same time they accomplish something regularly. Usually unfamous people attempting suicide do it because of being poorer. What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure we prefer celebrities when thinking of importance but at same time they accomplish something regularly. Usually unfamous people attempting suicide do it because of being poorer. What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: PumpkinHead</title>
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		<dc:creator>PumpkinHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We deify and live vicariously through celebrities. And we can love or hate them when we want. So there&#039;s a emotional distance that is safe for us. In that, we don&#039;t have to actually deal with the emotions of someone you actually know or know of in real life on a constant basis. We can pour our heart out when convenient for us to feel better about the situation, not them. 

It&#039;s easy to say how sad it was a great talent like Johnny Cash tried to kill himself. And think about all the great songs and how sad you&#039;d be if he&#039;d actually accomplished the suicide then. It would not be as easy probably if you had known him and actually had to deal with him during that period. So we are detached and can offer our emotions easily and never have consequences from it. 

Megan Fox is too hot to have thoughts like that. She&#039;s on top of the world, she shouldn&#039;t probably have any thoughts at all, much less those kind of thoughts.  Or that&#039;s what we project in our minds as being true. An elderly lady who no one knows decides to end it all we can kinda see from a distance as not being as important to our world. We don&#039;t know either one but we make that choice. Since we think we know Megan Fox and not the elderly woman it&#039;s easy. If the elderly woman was your mother, that complicates things and we don&#039;t like to think about that or deal with it. It&#039;s much easier to sympathize with poor Megan or insert any celeb name. 

I do know someone who attempted suicide. The first thing I thought of arriving at the hospital is &quot;What do I say?&quot;. And, how do I react?. And, how can I help them?. Maybe it&#039;d be better If I didn&#039;t go see them yet?. Yeah, that&#039;d be best! I&#039;ll wait till they&#039;re all better!. But, I went. It was really hard and very emotional. And very stressful. She got well months later after a lot of therapy. Or as well as can be to still want to live. And not surprisingly, most of her &quot;friends&quot; didn&#039;t attempt to call or visit her during that time. I&#039;m glad I took that step and went to see her. But, if something like that happened again to anybody I knew I&#039;d have probably the same initial questions and reactions. It&#039;s not easy on the person or those around them.

If using my imagination and detachment and easy thoughts we apply to celebrities It&#039;d been Johnny Cash I went to see. I&#039;d say &quot;I&#039;m here Johnny! Your all better now!&quot; He&#039;d agree and we&#039;d stroll out singing I Walk The Line, all happy like. 

It&#039;s not that easy, though we all wish it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We deify and live vicariously through celebrities. And we can love or hate them when we want. So there&#8217;s a emotional distance that is safe for us. In that, we don&#8217;t have to actually deal with the emotions of someone you actually know or know of in real life on a constant basis. We can pour our heart out when convenient for us to feel better about the situation, not them. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to say how sad it was a great talent like Johnny Cash tried to kill himself. And think about all the great songs and how sad you&#8217;d be if he&#8217;d actually accomplished the suicide then. It would not be as easy probably if you had known him and actually had to deal with him during that period. So we are detached and can offer our emotions easily and never have consequences from it. </p>
<p>Megan Fox is too hot to have thoughts like that. She&#8217;s on top of the world, she shouldn&#8217;t probably have any thoughts at all, much less those kind of thoughts.  Or that&#8217;s what we project in our minds as being true. An elderly lady who no one knows decides to end it all we can kinda see from a distance as not being as important to our world. We don&#8217;t know either one but we make that choice. Since we think we know Megan Fox and not the elderly woman it&#8217;s easy. If the elderly woman was your mother, that complicates things and we don&#8217;t like to think about that or deal with it. It&#8217;s much easier to sympathize with poor Megan or insert any celeb name. </p>
<p>I do know someone who attempted suicide. The first thing I thought of arriving at the hospital is &#8220;What do I say?&#8221;. And, how do I react?. And, how can I help them?. Maybe it&#8217;d be better If I didn&#8217;t go see them yet?. Yeah, that&#8217;d be best! I&#8217;ll wait till they&#8217;re all better!. But, I went. It was really hard and very emotional. And very stressful. She got well months later after a lot of therapy. Or as well as can be to still want to live. And not surprisingly, most of her &#8220;friends&#8221; didn&#8217;t attempt to call or visit her during that time. I&#8217;m glad I took that step and went to see her. But, if something like that happened again to anybody I knew I&#8217;d have probably the same initial questions and reactions. It&#8217;s not easy on the person or those around them.</p>
<p>If using my imagination and detachment and easy thoughts we apply to celebrities It&#8217;d been Johnny Cash I went to see. I&#8217;d say &#8220;I&#8217;m here Johnny! Your all better now!&#8221; He&#8217;d agree and we&#8217;d stroll out singing I Walk The Line, all happy like. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that easy, though we all wish it was.</p>
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