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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/general/avoid-telling-people-they-are-wrong/comment-page-1#comment-138199</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bes you are wrong ;)

But seriously, great post!  I was looking for some of the principals behind verbal judo that I had learned years ago and I stumbled upon your site.  I was responding to an email I received attacking my website&#039;s contribution to the environmental movement.  At the core of the discussion was the issue of changing behavior.  I didn&#039;t find this until after I responded but I was refreshed to find this post reaffirmed not only my position, but the tactics I used to convey my points.  In a former life when I attended the police academy we were trained in &quot;Verbal Judo&quot; and while the specific tactics escape me I spent years trying to get uncooperative people to cooperate and I had a lot of success using the approach you discuss above.  Despite working in a very busy and sometimes rough area I very rarely had to use force, instead I empowered the people I was dealing with to make the choices I wanted them to make.  It was much easier to do this on the job because it wasn&#039;t personal so I could be objective and make concessions without sacrificing my ego (plus I had the luxury of knowing that I would always win the confrontation, either by voluntary compliance or by force).  It is a challenge however, to not get personal in my personal life when I find myself debating philosophy, politics...  and I always find that once I become emotionally invested in the argument it is all down hill from there.  

Great site, keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bes you are wrong <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/wink.png' alt='Wink' title='Wink' class='tse-smiley' /></p>
<p>But seriously, great post!  I was looking for some of the principals behind verbal judo that I had learned years ago and I stumbled upon your site.  I was responding to an email I received attacking my website&#8217;s contribution to the environmental movement.  At the core of the discussion was the issue of changing behavior.  I didn&#8217;t find this until after I responded but I was refreshed to find this post reaffirmed not only my position, but the tactics I used to convey my points.  In a former life when I attended the police academy we were trained in &#8220;Verbal Judo&#8221; and while the specific tactics escape me I spent years trying to get uncooperative people to cooperate and I had a lot of success using the approach you discuss above.  Despite working in a very busy and sometimes rough area I very rarely had to use force, instead I empowered the people I was dealing with to make the choices I wanted them to make.  It was much easier to do this on the job because it wasn&#8217;t personal so I could be objective and make concessions without sacrificing my ego (plus I had the luxury of knowing that I would always win the confrontation, either by voluntary compliance or by force).  It is a challenge however, to not get personal in my personal life when I find myself debating philosophy, politics&#8230;  and I always find that once I become emotionally invested in the argument it is all down hill from there.  </p>
<p>Great site, keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/general/avoid-telling-people-they-are-wrong/comment-page-1#comment-113372</link>
		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 06:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tina, thanks for the response, and I apologize for the delay in my response.

I&#039;m glad you like this article. Being surrounded by those who do not appreciate you even through criticism is not a good thing for either the employee, the employer, or the corporation. 

I&#039;m guessing you have a single boss who likes to tell you how she is right and you are wrong? What industry do you work in, if I may ask?

So many times, it may seem to hard to tell a boss &quot;&lt;em&gt;I disagree, I think this way is the better and correct way.&lt;/em&gt;&quot; Many bosses realize this, while many more simply think that being a boss means bossing around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tina, thanks for the response, and I apologize for the delay in my response.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you like this article. Being surrounded by those who do not appreciate you even through criticism is not a good thing for either the employee, the employer, or the corporation. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing you have a single boss who likes to tell you how she is right and you are wrong? What industry do you work in, if I may ask?</p>
<p>So many times, it may seem to hard to tell a boss &#8220;<em>I disagree, I think this way is the better and correct way.</em>&#8221; Many bosses realize this, while many more simply think that being a boss means bossing around.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/general/avoid-telling-people-they-are-wrong/comment-page-1#comment-109582</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 11:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woohoo.  Great to read your article.  I have had a string of idiot bosses over the last few years.  Which has left me asking myself - &quot;How does one fly like an eagle when surrounded by turkeys?&quot;  I hate the humiliation of being told I am wrong when I know I am right.  Especially about things that are plain, hard facts.  I don&#039;t mind people disagreeing with me when it is all a matter of opinion but when your boss is ignorant, it is so difficult.
Thank you for the article.  Helpful.

Next time I&#039;ll just show her the dictionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woohoo.  Great to read your article.  I have had a string of idiot bosses over the last few years.  Which has left me asking myself &#8211; &#8220;How does one fly like an eagle when surrounded by turkeys?&#8221;  I hate the humiliation of being told I am wrong when I know I am right.  Especially about things that are plain, hard facts.  I don&#8217;t mind people disagreeing with me when it is all a matter of opinion but when your boss is ignorant, it is so difficult.<br />
Thank you for the article.  Helpful.</p>
<p>Next time I&#8217;ll just show her the dictionary.</p>
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		<title>By: 10 Practical Ways To Add Apprecation To Your Writing &#187; Reader Appreciation Project</title>
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		<dc:creator>10 Practical Ways To Add Apprecation To Your Writing &#187; Reader Appreciation Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jack will be happier, and so will you. Basically, avoid telling people they are wrong. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 17:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize for the late reply. I was &lt;a href=&quot;http://thereasoner.com/blog/back-from-southern-california-april-2007/&quot; title=&quot;Traveling to Southern California&quot;&gt;traveling&lt;/a&gt; and just got back recently.

&lt;strong&gt;Ronalfy&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks! :D That is interesting to know, that you were advised not to use the &quot;you&quot; word with customers.

I like your example; it explains things clearly. :) Thanks again Ronalfy!

&lt;strong&gt;broc&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for stopping by and commenting! :) Yes, there is usually the urge to tell people what they did wrong, but somehow the human nature makes us more defensive than appreciative when told that we did something wrong. I hope to see more comments and insight by you in the future. :)

&lt;strong&gt;Iris&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks! :) I am glad you like this article. It is indeed &quot;&lt;em&gt;better to talk about the matters&lt;/em&gt;&quot; than about the people in many situations, unless you are comfortable and sure that you can convey your message effectively. Thanks again Iris.

&lt;strong&gt;Noor&lt;/strong&gt;, thanks for stopping by and commenting, I really appreciate it! :) Those are interesting quotes, thanks for explaining. We should remember policies and tips about communicating with others effectively at all times, as if it was built right into our minds.

Thanks again! Hope to see you on the site more. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize for the late reply. I was <a href="http://thereasoner.com/blog/back-from-southern-california-april-2007/" title="Traveling to Southern California">traveling</a> and just got back recently.</p>
<p><strong>Ronalfy</strong>, thanks! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/grin.png' alt='Grin' title='Grin' class='tse-smiley' /> That is interesting to know, that you were advised not to use the &#8220;you&#8221; word with customers.</p>
<p>I like your example; it explains things clearly. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /> Thanks again Ronalfy!</p>
<p><strong>broc</strong>, thanks for stopping by and commenting! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /> Yes, there is usually the urge to tell people what they did wrong, but somehow the human nature makes us more defensive than appreciative when told that we did something wrong. I hope to see more comments and insight by you in the future. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /></p>
<p><strong>Iris</strong>, thanks! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /> I am glad you like this article. It is indeed &#8220;<em>better to talk about the matters</em>&#8221; than about the people in many situations, unless you are comfortable and sure that you can convey your message effectively. Thanks again Iris.</p>
<p><strong>Noor</strong>, thanks for stopping by and commenting, I really appreciate it! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /> Those are interesting quotes, thanks for explaining. We should remember policies and tips about communicating with others effectively at all times, as if it was built right into our minds.</p>
<p>Thanks again! Hope to see you on the site more. <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Noor Azman Bin Othman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noor Azman Bin Othman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my right sidebar, I posted an awesome saying by a friend of mine, An Irish Friend of Bill &lt;b&gt;Regarding &#039;arguments&#039; and disagreement generally...&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Never wrestle with a pig: You both get all dirty, and the pig likes it.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;â€œFor those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don&#039;t understand, no explanation is possibleâ€ &lt;/i&gt;

I hope you will find it useful.

Greeting from Kuala Kangsar, Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my right sidebar, I posted an awesome saying by a friend of mine, An Irish Friend of Bill <b>Regarding &#8216;arguments&#8217; and disagreement generally&#8230;</b><br />
<i>&#8220;Never wrestle with a pig: You both get all dirty, and the pig likes it.&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>â€œFor those who understand, no explanation is necessary; for those who don&#8217;t understand, no explanation is possibleâ€ </i></p>
<p>I hope you will find it useful.</p>
<p>Greeting from Kuala Kangsar, Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: A Series of Blamable Events at The Reasoner</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Series of Blamable Events at The Reasoner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If only the rental car company would not argue with someone who just posted about the dangers of telling someone they are wrong. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Iris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this article. We should focus on just things but not people. Instead of telling people they are wrong, it&#039;s better to talk about the matters and also it helps deal with things more properly.

Iris
http://iristwo.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this article. We should focus on just things but not people. Instead of telling people they are wrong, it&#8217;s better to talk about the matters and also it helps deal with things more properly.</p>
<p>Iris<br />
<a href="http://iristwo.blogspot.com/">http://iristwo.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Smart Topics Around The Web - Zoomstart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smart Topics Around The Web - Zoomstart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 03:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Zain helps you with your verbal judo. Go. Become wise [...]</description>
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		<title>By: broc</title>
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		<dc:creator>broc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in arguments i always find myself wanting to scream that but know that it would only have the adverse effect that i would intend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in arguments i always find myself wanting to scream that but know that it would only have the adverse effect that i would intend</p>
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		<title>By: Ronalfy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronalfy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 22:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about Google Talk :P

Bes, you are the opposite of wrong!  

When I worked at Walgreens, we were &quot;coached&quot; never to use the word &quot;you&quot; to a customer.  By using the word &quot;you&quot;, the argument was automatically personal.   

Compare these two statements:

1. &quot;You shouldn&#039;t have left your camera out in the sun because the film got too hot.&quot;
2. &quot;It looks like the film was exposed to some extreme heat.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about Google Talk <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/razz.png' alt='Razz' title='Razz' class='tse-smiley' /></p>
<p>Bes, you are the opposite of wrong!  </p>
<p>When I worked at Walgreens, we were &#8220;coached&#8221; never to use the word &#8220;you&#8221; to a customer.  By using the word &#8220;you&#8221;, the argument was automatically personal.   </p>
<p>Compare these two statements:</p>
<p>1. &#8220;You shouldn&#8217;t have left your camera out in the sun because the film got too hot.&#8221;<br />
2. &#8220;It looks like the film was exposed to some extreme heat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Birdie&lt;/strong&gt;, I am so glad to hear from you again! :) I have to leave my AIM on now, heh.

Please, feel free to tell me anytime that I am wrong. I don&#039;t mind coming from you at all! :D Talk to you soon, and like I said, it is really nice to hear from you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Birdie</strong>, I am so glad to hear from you again! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/smile.png' alt='Smile' title='Smile' class='tse-smiley' /> I have to leave my AIM on now, heh.</p>
<p>Please, feel free to tell me anytime that I am wrong. I don&#8217;t mind coming from you at all! <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/grin.png' alt='Grin' title='Grin' class='tse-smiley' /> Talk to you soon, and like I said, it is really nice to hear from you again.</p>
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		<title>By: Birdie</title>
		<link>http://thereasoner.com/articles/general/avoid-telling-people-they-are-wrong/comment-page-1#comment-20324</link>
		<dc:creator>Birdie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah Bes, how I have missed you these past few months!  I look forward to our AIM conversations, and I will most definitely keep this post in mind if we ever come to an impasse.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah Bes, how I have missed you these past few months!  I look forward to our AIM conversations, and I will most definitely keep this post in mind if we ever come to an impasse.  <img src='http://thereasoner.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smileys-extended/tango/grin.png' alt='Grin' title='Grin' class='tse-smiley' /></p>
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